The Glacier National Park Experience – Enjoying the Rewards of Risk
“I’d rather take a risk today than live with regret tomorrow.”
The best conversations happen outside your comfort zone—and sometimes 13 miles from the nearest road.
This episode is a true adventure. Jeff Noel and I hiked 13 miles into the backcountry of Glacier National Park—no Wi-Fi, no cell service, no backup plan. Just gear, grit, and a shared belief that sometimes, the best way to lead is to leap.
We recorded this episode sitting among glaciers, mountain peaks, and bighorn sheep, talking about risk, creativity, and why Jeff approaches his podcast If Disney Ran Your Life so differently. We share what happens when you do something no one else is doing—not for the attention, but because it unlocks new possibilities. Jeff reflects on leaving Disney, breaking the rules of content creation, and what he’s learned from doing things the unconventional way.
We also talk about the fear that stops people before they start and how flipping the question from “What if it doesn’t work?” to “What if it does?” can change everything.
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Notable Moments
00:45 – Why Jeff thinks differently and what brought them to the wilderness
02:22 – The mindset behind recording in remote, wild places
03:24 – Why taking creative risks often leads to the best breakthroughs
04:52 – The value of in-person recording—and going beyond expectations
05:40 – Jeff’s philosophy: risk leads to discovery
06:18 – “What if it doesn’t work?” vs. “What if it does?”
08:10 – The power of asking, persistence, and avoiding regret
09:27 – Compound interest of small risks; keep moving forward
10:53 – When failure still means you’ve moved forward
11:35 – Lee Cockerell’s mindset: try every door
12:29 – What persistence says about character and commitment
